EMMA LOMBARDO

TAPED INTERVIEW ON MARCH 21, 1991

Note this before we begin:

When the murder occurred, only two people saw the gunman in the dental office.  
One was Virginia and the other was Emma.  
Virginia has given her statement that she had view of the side door. 
That the lab door would have squeaked if a person had entered and no one came though that door.
Virginia said the gunman / robber must have already been in the building, in the back hiding.
Minutes before the murder, Norm, Emma and Virginia heard a noise in the back room.
They dismissed the noise as one of their machines acting up again.

FYI: Click here to see office layout.

Emma did NOT see where or how the gunman came into the building. 
Emma did NOT say the gunman looked like Jason.  
Notice in this interview that the police are trying to urge Emma to say who the gunman resembled. [Jason]

We have read content in the newspaper following the day of the murder and the police claim the gunman came in the building shortly after 1:00 PM, though the side door past Virginia in pursuit of Norm.  He chased Norm into the hallway up to where Emma could ONLY see the back of the gunman.  Norm flew though the hall door and shut it behind him blocking the path of the gunman. The gunman fired through the door and then fled the scene. The police also claim Virginia did not have contact with the gunman and dismissed her as a creditable eye witness of this event.  In the newspaper the following morning, police say they do not have a suspect, but yet did NOT report Virginia's version to the newspaper, only THEIR theory (that the gunman went past her and not was hiding in the back) .  By reviewing the evidence, we believe Jason and Virginia were the prime suspects the day the murder occurred.

How much did the witness Emma Lombardo see?

EMMA LOMBARDO

TAPED INTERVIEW ON MARCH 21, 1991

Q. What time did you get back from lunch?

A. Probably five minutes of one.

Q. Where did you go? Which room did you go to get ready?

A. The x-ray room.  I mean in the blue room where I get the instruments. [Room #3]

A. So after I took the instrument then I went into the first room.

A. And then , about, maybe three minutes, or three minutes later I heard running, like heavy footsteps and I saw Doc running, going to that door.  To the waiting room.

Q. Where did he appear to be running from?  Could you tell?

A. When I was in that room I can see it, you know.  He was running for the door, though the door that went to the waiting room.

Q. Yeh, but where was he starting from, do you think?

A. That I don't know.  I couldn't tell you.

Q. Was he running from down the hall or was he running from his office, where his desk is?  Running from that area?

A. I don't know.  I could just, can't remember.

Q. So you just saw him run by the door?

A. Yeh, ran by the door.

Q. All right. He went into the waiting room then?

A. Yeh, he closed the door.

A. That's when I see the man standing, you know, by the door, pulling the trigger up.

A. He was tall and skinny with a mask on.

Q. What color was the mask?

A. Like blue. Something like blue.

A. His whole head and everything.

Q. How many holes did it have?

A. I didn't see that.

Q. Was there a hole for each eye or was there just one?

A. I didn't see that

Q. From the side?

A. I see from the side.

Q. And he had on what kind of shirt did you say?

A. Blue long sleeve.

Q. Was it a button type or was it a pull over type?

A. I can't tell.

A. Then after he pulled the trigger...then after he pull the gun he took off.

Q. Do you know whether he was wearing anything on his hands?

A. He was wearing gloves.

Q. What color were they?

A. It was a blue color. 

Q. Did you see the gun too?

A. I see the gun, you know, just a part of like...

Q. The barrel? The front of it?

A. Yeh, The front of it was the only thing that I saw.

Q. You couldn't see the whole gun?

A. I could only see part.

Q. So he was standing there in the doorway of the room that you were in?

A. Right by the door.

Q. And the gun was across his body?

A. Yes.

Q. He fired and turned around? What did he do then?

A. I think he went through the lab.

Q. Was he just walking calmly or was he running?

A. I didn't notice that because I was in shock at the time.

A. Then maybe about five minutes later I went out by the lab and I saw Virginia.  I don't know, maybe two, three minutes.  Not five minutes but three minutes.  Then I went out by the lab and I saw Virginia get up and she was calling Jason.

Q. Did you hear the doctor say anything?

A. I think he said "Help me".

A. After he got shot.

A. When she was calling Jason, he went out though that door, though the side door.

A. And then she came back, she went straight to the telephone and called 911.

A. She was saying like "Norman, you have to make it.  Norman, don't do this. Norman" you know.

Q. Did you actually see the gunman leave the building?

A. I didn't see. I mean because I was in the other room.

Q. Did you hear any cars or any noises of vehicles leaving?

A. No. I was still  in the room when he left.

Q. Did you like working with Virginia?

A. Well, yeh. Because she was just real nice to me.  She didn't bother me at all.

Q. Okay. I want you to focus. Bear with me. I thinking hear. Did you see Virginia go after this guy at all or did she touch the guy?  Did you notice that?

A. No. Because as I said, when the guy left I was still in the room.

Q. Did you ever hear the doctor mention anybody's name at all, at anytime?

A. No.

Q Is there anything familiar about the gunman?

A. No. I just know that he is tall and skinny.

Q. But there was nothing about him that reminded you of someone?

A. No.

Q. He didn't look like anybody, from what you saw, or?

A. No.

Q. No?

A. No.

Q. You don't think you know him form somewhere?

A. No.

Q. Who would you say he resembled s far as build or anything like that?  Did you say he resembled anybody as far as his size or anything like that?

A. No.

Q. It's important we get this.  There's nothing else about the gunman that you could remember that would help us?

A. No. As I said, when you turn your head around like that and especially when you're in shock, you know.

Q. Could you see any skin anywhere?

A. No.

Q. He was fully covered?

A. He was fully covered.

Q. And you can't tell if he was white, black or nothing?

A. No.

Q. Did he say anything at all?

A. He didn't say anything. He just pulled the trigger and took off.

A. He didn't even look at where he shot the doctor or...you know, he just fired and left.

Q. He didn't open the door to see?

A. He didn't open the door to see. He just left.

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